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It worked for Audi... SEAT entering first diesel in WTCC

Posted Jul 20th 2007 8:34AM by Dan Roth
Filed under: Motorsports, Euro, SEAT


SEAT, being under the VAG corporate umbrella, certainly knows what's been going on with Audi's racing diesels. Perhaps the division looks up to its Ingolstadt cousins with admiration, and it's hoping that imitation yields the same type of success. SEAT will be the first manufacturer to field a diesel-powered entry in the FIA's World Touring Car Championship. Two TDI racers will take to the macadam on July 28th and 29th in Sweden.

The car itself is a Leon sporting a 2-liter diesel engine that's based on the 170PS street-going mill. In WTCC trim, power is up to 280PS, and the turbocharger and gearbox have been swapped for racing units. The rules stipulate that a diesel car carry a 30kg weight penalty, and the attendant hardware for the powertrain shifts the weight distribution in a bad direction. SEAT is banking on the moves the chassis provides, as well as the muscular torque delivery of the diesel to make the Leon competitive.

Press release after the jump

[Source: SEAT]

For immediate release:
20th July 2007

SEAT IS WORLD'S FIRST MANUFACTURER TO PUT DIESEL INTO WTCC

The next FIA World Touring Car Championship meeting will be a milestone for both SEAT and the FIA World Series – for the first time, a manufacturer team will enter a diesel car at a FIA-organised official World Championship race.

At the event in Sweden on the 28th to 29th July, both Jordi Gené and Yvan Muller will drive a Leon WTCC car equipped with a 280 PS diesel engine, which is derived from the 170 PS 2.0-litre TDI featured in the top-selling Leon FR.

SEAT will be rolling two TDI cars onto the Scandinavian Raceway at Anderstorp, as the culmination of a technological breakthrough SEAT Sport engineers have been working on for the past few months. The aim is to increase the team's competitiveness at the World Championship and pave the way to winning the Manufacturers' and Drivers' titles.

Jaime Puig, Director of SEAT Sport, said: 'The regulations allow us to register a car equipped with a diesel engine, and we were happy to rise to the challenge. We are satisfied with the testing results and believe the Leon TDI WTCC can become a competitive car in the mid to long term. For the moment it will only be driven by Jordi Gené, who has been responsible for its development, and Yvan Muller. Gabriele Tarquini, Tiago Monteiro and Michel Jourdain will continue to drive the usual model.'

Benoit Bagur, SEAT Sport Chief Engineer, added: 'Since the FIA made it possible to enter a diesel engine in the competition, we started looking into the viability of the project, and it took off a few months ago. The basis for the engine is the 170 PS 2.0-litre mounted in the Leon FR. We kept the engine block and the cylinder head of the production model, but changed the turbo compressor and gearbox. Furthermore, we had to alter the front part to house the intercooler and create new air intakes. The diesel engine is 35 kg heavier than the petrol, so we had to redistribute some weight. After satisfactory test results, we are eager to see its potential in actual racing conditions.'

Jordi Gené: 'We have been working on this project for several months, and appreciate its great potential. I am looking forward to it because one of the aspects I most like about my job is the possibility of working on new car development, and even more so when they feature new technology. We are facing a double handicap with the diesel car. The first is that according to regulations, a diesel car has to weigh 30 kg more than one with a petrol engine. The second is that the intercooler and the turbo are situated ahead of the front axle, which makes weight distribution detrimental compared with a petrol car. But, as the Leon has the best chassis in the Championship and our engine torque will be much higher, I think that, in the mid-term and on certain tracks, we can be competitive.'

Yvan Muller was enthusiastic about the new car. He said: 'I have done some testing with the diesel engine, and the lap times are very similar to the petrol. It is a little slower in the corners because of the extra weight and there is more stress on the tyres, but it is a little bit quicker on the straights. The chassis of the SEAT Leon is one of the best, but the straight-line speed is too slow and now SEAT Sport has found a good solution to this problem. I'm looking forward to racing the Leon for the first time in Sweden.'

SEAT Leon TDI WTCC technical data

BASE CAR
SEAT Leon FR 2.0 TDI 170 PS

ENGINE
Turbocharged, four-cylinder in line, transversely-mounted, 16 valves,
twin overhead camshafts
Displacement: 2,000 cc
Bore x stroke: 81 x 95.5 mm
Maximum power: 280 PS at 4000 rpm
Maximum torque: 450 Nm at 2500 rpm
Lubrication: wet sump

TRANSMISSION
Front-wheel drive
Gearbox: Hewland six-speed, sequential shift
Clutch: twin-plate
Differential: mechanical limited slip differential

CHASSIS
Front suspension: MacPherson strut, coil springs, gas-filled dampers, anti-roll bar
Rear suspension: multi-link axle, coil springs, gas-filled dampers, anti-roll bar
Steering: power-assisted rack and pinion

BRAKES
Non-assisted dual circuit system
Front brakes: four-piston callipers, 332 mm steel ventilated discs
Rear brakes: two-piston callipers, 280 mm steel discs

DIMENSIONS
Length: 4330 mm
Width: 1849 mm
Wheelbase: 2600 mm
Minimum weight: 1170kg (including driver)

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/20/it-w ... l-in-wtcc/


Ou seja, trocando por miudos...

Leon Diesel WTCC 280cv ---> Leon Diesel pra malta dentro em breve com 200~220cv :P

E segundo algumas más linguas. face aos resultados da Skoda no WRC, não é de admirar que haja a hipotese de vermos uma versão Leon WRC, os gabinetes técnico e financeiro o grupo VAG, andam a trabalhar nisso, para chegarem a um relatório de viabilidade de trocarem a Skoda pela Seat no WRC...


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É impressão minha ou torque mantem-se quase o de origem relativamente ao grande aumento de cavalagem?
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350 Nm para 450 Nm nao é um aumento pequeno... :?
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faltam-me 10cv e tenho de tirar 100Nm para ter esses valores!! :lol: :P :P :P :P
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Estes post's para mim sao excusados...
Uma lenga lenga do caraças toda escrita em ingles, q qq gajo pode escrever...

Em vez de ter ai um filme com um comparativo ou a fazer um teste de potencia... Enfim... :zzz:
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Não é lenga lenga...é verdade

http://www.fiawtcc.com/fiawtcc/sport_sto1251144.shtml

É o site da FIA!

Pra quem acha mau...a questão é que pelo video que está na página não vejo ponta de fumo!...o que para 280cv me parece um nível de evolução notável!
..no smoke...lots of fun..pelos vistos!

http://www.fiawtcc.com/fiawtcc/istanbul ... ndar.shtml

http://dnl.fiawtcc.com/results/13580/result_185819.pdf Um 6º lugar na 1ª corrida...
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ora ai está TDI POWER 8)
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TDI POWER mais nada :D
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AUTO EMOTION :D
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ja q temos este topico vou aproveitar...

a minha duvida prende-se com o facto de vermos um diesel 2.0 com obvios melhoramentos, no entanto no outro dia a ver a corrida nao vi fumo absolutamente nenhum... como é q eles fazem isso?? tb quero.
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FAP 8)
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Blacklion Escreveu:FAP 8)
FAP neste de corrida :hum: Achas mesmo???

Atenção que a maioria dos Seat WTCC ainda são a gasolina :)
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redcupra Escreveu:FAP?????
ké isso?
Filtro Anti-Partículas :) é um filtro integrado no catalisador, que visa a redução de gases poluentes. Faz com que os carros a diesel não deitem praticamente fumo preto :P

Estive a ver e só participam no campeonato dois Seat Leon a diesel. O resto é a gasolina :)
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sim eu sei q sao so 2, ate pk dizem TDI em gigante na frente...

axam mm q sera do FAP? normalmente n seria a primeira coisa a tirar num carro destes? todos os escapes de competiçao sao directos... parece-me o mais logico.

o q me parece ser, é q eles n têm excesso de gasoleo na repro, por isso n ha fumo preto, pois nao ha gasoleo por queimar... n sei se sera...
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minha gente, os carros de competição têm k cumprir normas bastante rigorosas de emissoes poluentes, e o FAP nao retira potencia conforme se afirma por ai. é preciso é que seja bem desenvolvido.
O peug que ficou em 3º em le-mans guiado pelo Pedro Lamy é hdi-fap e o audi v10 tdi que ganhou tb é tdi-fap.
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Que eu saiba nestes campeonatos nenhum carro pode fazer fumo vizivel , logo se n tinha FAP estava ilegal ou tinha de ser reprogramado de uma forma bastante soft.
Todos estes novos modelos usam FAP , acolumao particulas em baixas( a zona onde faria fumo sem FAP) e keima isso quando chega as altas com EGTs altas.Assim nunca faz fumo... pode é em ultimo caso se andar sempre na zona onde faz mas fumo entupir o FAP... nas num carro de competiçao sera dificil.

Este 2.0TDI penso que nao tem nada a ver cm o 170cv... penso que ja é Comum Rail.

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